Wednesday, August 10, 2016

Experts talk about AI industry in China with those in academic strengths and

Though the robots discussed at the end of May fair has just ended Summit said its upcoming third China robot, is also a big brother at home and abroad gathered in, the same interpretation of top experts, is also a network of Lei Feng (search for "Lei feng's network", public interest) to just two summits within half a month, seems to be a bit overwhelming.

But after every summit, all ideas for tough wave of sound, is one of our most evocative place, is where the significance of the Summit. For example, what are the AI industry in China in terms of academic advantages and disadvantages of such a timeless topic--should listen to some tough collective opinion.

Discuss gentlemen, Korea Association of large data charge Hanseok Ko, the Carnegie Mellon Professor Xing Bo, Vice President Robert Weideman of Nuance company, Chinese Academy of Sciences Du Jiangfeng, seiche, business development General Manager IBM investment, small I robot CTO Chu repeatedly.

Experts talk about | AI industry in China with those in academic strengths and weaknesses

Moderator: AI industry in China with those in academic strengths and weaknesses, how to improve?

Hanseok KO: I think that a healthy ecological system, combined with many stakeholders, including universities, research institutions, and Government. Might want to look at a number of startups, many startups have a lot of energy and has a great vision for the future and views, create new business models. There should be some new business models to be developed, so that Governments and other stakeholders together to participate in construction of ecological system.

In private conversations, XING said a very clear answer, give the AI industry in China under his academic strengths and weaknesses.

Xing Bo: artificial intelligence market in China is very big, demand is large, starting relatively low, based on this scale, enter a good business, the threshold is easy to overcome, many entrepreneurs are willing to challenge.

My personal feeling is now industry is blind, with Oriental culture, or the interaction of media, Government and civil society as a whole, there are some unique characteristics.

Like on recently artificial intelligence of some results, including like AlphaGo of people machine contest of results, like some large company, like Google or Facebook and on some products of declared, I personal of observation is in China set off of restlessness than United States big, this is is good, can caused is big of concern, also makes noise very big, this to Government and research institutions of positioning, and to development personnel self target of set and path of set are caused has must of difficult or must of challenge.

Improvement is a long-term task, is not much of a problem. We say listen, hear the dark. For an entire layout, or research and development activities are the best layering. Instead of a honeycomb-style agitation, so you can have a bottom, or bottom up two-way interaction to achieve. Need people with good wisdom and patience to lead this State, also needs to researchers and the general public, or the force of old, the students develop their own taste and, for different information. Especially from these permissions are strong figures, or their information, has a cool ability to observe, it has opportunities for you, making your business or view has a better track.

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Governments expressed their concerns on many levels, and give some support experts to give them more platform or a say, experts from industry and academia to achieve a better distribution. I personally feel, it might not be accurate, most heroes are successful business people in the country. This is a very controversial topic. There are many school teachers have this thinking, also want to be able to have the opportunity to be able to publish.

Host: how to make AI better in China?

Robert Weideman: China is now used and other examples to inspire the industry, this is a very challenging thing, encouraging this environment, and let a lot of people to research things, I also agree very much, great job market in China, innovative spirit is also very strong, not only the Alibaba and Tencent's large companies, like other small companies.

What we can do, is to continue to confirm that what we will bring benefits in the field of artificial intelligence? While we understand what AI can get into the industry? Such as privacy concerns, people may be more concerned about. These link the Chinese Government to go into balancing the whole situation, to set standards, identify all the development will get a good result, rather than a negative result.

I think the current bottleneck in China, each country has encountered. Every country is doing just fine, though it is a very new thing. I think the entire government organizations and business organizations are in constant progress. Countries should be committed to the no-win situation, from my understanding, organizational aspects of the Government of China is in a leading position. From the business side, I think the Chinese Government should take a certain balance.

Host: what should China do basic research and study of quantum intelligent?

Du Jiangfeng: generally speaking from science to apply to industry, this is a complete set of chains, although much of the technology is scientifically to get. For example, went to the hospital to check such a technology, are very regular checks. Many companies in the industry are doing now, the 70 's already has, from a scientific discovery, to a technology, to form the size of an industry, there is a relatively long process. So to say that science is the source of technical, otherwise will be original or new technology found that has some basis in science. Which is why any country or any country must have strong technological strength? As you can see, in this regard, does very well in the world is the United States.

In the last century before, basically did very well in Europe, Europe in about the last 100 years is very good. But First century United States do very well, there is a strong underlying hardware capability.

China hardware in recent years, the development of science and technology of China, mandamansuan 50 years ' time. From the past decades, from a beginning is entirely, I research institution in China, inside the University experimental research, basically doing research, because the country's economic capacity, now some economies, gradually, gradually a certain degree of influence, there are certain basic research results appear.

Such as Huawei, is an original, there are some original innovations, there is a core intellectual property capabilities of enterprises, but not a lot, he's a film. Now why is economic restructuring? The road is long, without a very good tracking technology lead? Need for society as a whole, science is not 1:30, it must have been accumulated for a long time. Advances in technology will promote the progress of science, and the two complement each other. Industry, such as small I, centuries of history of the University, but in an enterprise may be years, decades, and business life in China is probably much lower, what is the cause?

Once you see an opportunity to make money, we have to fight, it's not a right way, must be the best thing to do, solidly down doing the best thing. No matter what industry, this is the same. Technology must be at the frontiers of science are studied, and value is a myth, it is not, good technique you have, I have, and you're gifted, it is better.

I as a researcher of scientific research, our goal is to train personnel, personnel training is more critical and more basic, if talents do not come out, is not the future of innovation, new technologies in the future. Mission to give people from generation to generation, in China anyway, and developed rapidly from scratch has been established based on a scientific mission.

Let us think about Japan, Japan from the Meiji era, the modern enterprise, we are rather late, let alone compared to Western countries like, along with the efforts of everyone, tomorrow will be better and better.

Moderator: current management, taxation, and so on a series of changes to improve the investment environment, development of artificial intelligence industry in China will be better?

Zhu frequently: last I participate in China industry Union Conference, has a consensus, now artificial intelligence of battlefield is United States and China two a main participation, China relative technology research aspects slightly explicit impetuous, not special solid, after all development not special long, now in fast run, because China special of market environment, has more of user group, has very big of market, may in some products and application Shang, also will go in market forefront. Just scads of newspapers already mentioned economic in China actually done quite a long time, not because of domestic problems, issues or market environment. Overseas customer service center has been developing for a long time, will this cost, reminiscent of the voice of this interaction, automatic in telephone customer service voice navigation feature much lower human capital. Customer service center of China weak point, as China's demographic dividend prior to the beginning of the end, the development of mobile Internet is not better than United States how much slower.

Mobile Internet is developing rapidly, there have been many world class enterprise, not necessarily how much slower will lead us more to think through the Internet and mobile Internet how to triage customer service pressure. Application in the virtual machine before, is micro-APP-wide channels, and so on, first appeared in China to do such a thing, is China's largest industry, no matter what kind of environment? Eventually converge.

Overseas again, launching many new channels, such as Facebook, is some text interactively, it is known as the newspaper's economic development. In China, more than 10 years starting when the environment is relatively poor, when registering a company, and registered capital is basically putting money in, then stamp out the money. Registration doesn't need the money now, relatively in terms of venture capital in China, have been doing a lot of work, in imitation of some practices in Silicon Valley, Zhongguancun in Beijing have very similar approaches, we also learn advanced methods of learning. Overall development time is short, outside of the study, many of them superficial things, runs very fast, but is not so solid. Must be the entire path is getting better, I feel all aspects of entrepreneurial path environment is getting better, and now artificial intelligence is very hot, so the current environment is particularly good.

Moderator: AI has begun to replace some of the customer service call center, experts predicted in this respect?

Hanseok KO: I think zhiqian has IBM,Watson laboratory and other guest by mentioned of machine capacity, and media Shang by mentioned of capacity, this actually are is on capacity strength and accuracy, on these artificial intelligence of tool and related of machine, more big degree Shang is with forecast of quality has relationship, and AI machine quality has relationship, if to replaced still also to is long of time. Especially into the AI software in certain specific areas, specific to the application. Such as different database might use such a tool, in a specific case are still very complex, very challenging. To get there very early, no way to say exactly what year would be, but it certainly is a very long time.

There are other speakers mentioned before on the other hand, there will be more opportunities for new, instead of being replaced. We do not need to consider because the machines instead of humans, and loss of jobs, we are more concerned about how new technologies can be used to create new employment opportunities? I think that once the training system, training system to sound was developed, whether the Government or a university-related training, there will be a new opportunity, I don't worry about my machine to beyond.

Xing Bo: artificial intelligence with other technological developments, in fact, not necessary to carry out the torture, or to pursue, in the social and ethical dimensions, because any development of a new technology will replace some functions in some way, and create new opportunities for activities or work. Such as auto-pilot instrument, now installed on the aircraft, but never worried about the pilot's job will disappear, but the quality of the work and level of comfort will be greatly improved. Pilots sit down and fly more than 20 hours a day, no one could imagine this thing. AI is the same, do not believe that it is humanity's career or to direct threats of such work may replace some us look dull and boring, and some of the more intense work. Such as legal instruments or the court clerk can make a robot, or a strange device to see the things, like allowing a judge and a doctor, people still play a key role.

A very high degree of difficulty, a high IQ to be competent.

Arbitration Arbitration than people may need to machine OK, I did not see this trend points to, there is an alternative relationship or the relationship between competition, it's just a function of the show. Now have the computer draw than artists well, but painters did disappear? Tears of the activity is not mechanically, binary result, I believe that individuals should have more to think about, let AI do what kind of thing? How to do better? Or is fear of artificial intelligence, artificial intelligence is an opportunity in itself, both in the work environment is a very good scene. I personal see not out produced has a opposition of situation appeared, certainly any a technology are has a adapted period, I see workers to hit machine, this situation will appeared, but cannot blame machine, also cannot blame invention machine of workers or research personnel, actually is a policy of problem, blame of is those capitalists, and commercial decision makers, problem should to they to asked, and not to produced artificial intelligence of people to questions.

Many people now have artificial intelligence can replace reporters write up, suddenly AI came out, do this for your brain, this challenge is different from the past, writing. Itself could make, I reserve me to think out and replace the human brain is a very fuzzy definition, is writing, still thinking, now called the nature of artificial intelligence software to write articles, basic cut and cut, rehabilitated, and will be very well written. Women knitting machines better than people now, even better. If people want to do, selling more expensive, called the original, handmade products. So it's not a competition, it is impossible to underestimate the human capacity and overestimate the ability of the machine, who before the threat, found his early ideas and valuable activity, not rigidly adhere to the old range, this is within a social and psychological reasons. We will not make the journalists disappeared in this industry, we will provide more information and better fake news, people of creative activities to be more cautious, more quality, and not a question of who will be replaced.

Host: will there be giant master AI technology while controlling the other technology in the future?

Robert Weideman: any time worried that too much, although artificial intelligence many breakthroughs have been made now, before today, heard a lot of artificial speech. While this concept appears in 1930-1940, but in 1980 had a breakthrough achievement now smart has some productive, for example in the world in the academic world, 2011-2012 has developed the AI is smart enough, so as to create productive force, these breakthrough results are not our own making, but academia offers the ability to break through, the breakthrough more widely. Funds for large companies more and faster feedback. Artificial intelligence is a concept that is too big, nothing is controlled, the power to develop into what for us, it is still too early. For us, understanding the science behind even aware of available technology, and deep, whether large companies or small companies are developing quickly, such as small companies and even responded very positively, than some of the Giants responded very quickly. That are applied on a global scale. Michael Kors Case for iPad

Look at the situation now, the information is shared. We have the desire to take advantage of this technology is increasing, concern is not an independent company, but the world should be concerned about.

Moderator: mastered the core technologies, influence on society has a lot of tilt, what?

Seiche: this problem should not say a technical development of inequality, or technology development to better serve the quality of life, new technologies appear unstoppable, was well as long as there is a technology will be widely used, you do not refuse phone or a good environment. A technical invention or produce, to our standard of living must be promoted, inequalities are two different things. Technology, whether it be public or scientific and technical workers, we work hard every day, every work is to better technology, exploring the future, let us learn more knowledge. To apply this knowledge to better place, make people's lives better, from a society more and more beautiful. The inequality of social equality? I don't think so from the development of science and technology, but the system. Health data such as IBM, and I think this AI Wu technical development, unlikely to exceed human intelligence, artificial intelligence is not a new subject, is the subject of an historical period, preferably in a right time and place for the emergence of such a thing would promote development in this area, use this opportunity. Instead of rising to such a chance with a good ethical thing, with some emerging technology there is no difference. Michael Kors Case for iPad

Do you think this is not really a technical issue, but a matter of policy?

Yes, I think it is not a concept, I think any technical invention and creation of certain people's quality of life, health, social, getting better and better, and if you think about it, for a long time to do some mechanical work, any machine can do such a thing, free people. Can find a new job, let the machines do, why don't you? You can work four-day, three-day holiday.

Summary:

As the Robert Weideman Mr said, China AI industry currently by at of bottleneck, each national are has encountered, we has himself of advantage, also has himself of disadvantage, but we special to note of, AI is one relates research close cooperation to out results of national movement, regardless of past we how to contributed to a industry, this once, we should abandoned China in past outlet rise Shi of impetuous and shortsighted, abandoned past attention commercial not attention academic of bias, Abandoned AI will have a tremendous threat to our social development bias, with "any new technology development, will replace some functions in some way" attitude to meet it.

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